Chocolate Drinking Machine Recommendations

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Permalink Reply by Solis Lujan on October 22, 2011 at 6:30pm

Will do....

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Permalink Reply by Solis Lujan on October 28, 2011 at 12:33am

Let's see if I attach the photos correctly!!!

The interior looks a lot like a rice cooker, but the pan can not be removed. There is a small hole at the bottom where water flows through and then up the exterior tube that give you a visual water level. This is the part that confuses me as far as hot chocolate is concerned, if the tube is filled with a chocolate mixture, how do you clean it. There is just no physical way.

Maybe Clay knows something about this and has used the Zojirushi???

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Permalink Reply by Andy Ciordia on October 28, 2011 at 9:48am

Excellent and thank you. To me clay was thinking of this as a milk/almond/soy holder which would then be combined with your ganache. For the water level, I think your right it'd be hard to clean and wonder if it would be easy to stop it up to not function.

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Permalink Reply by Andy Ciordia on October 21, 2011 at 10:16am

Interesting thought.  I wonder how much like a hot water kettle it is--being that if there is a raw heating element in it the amount of output is sure to scorch at the source, and clean up would be a beast.  I need to see if there is anyone selling these local to go look at one.  

 

Your idea is solid though, just keep the liquid at temp and then drop a few pre-weighed ganache bits in and you're good to go.

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Permalink Reply by Richard Foley on October 21, 2011 at 10:46pm

These Machines are good for mixing and heating liquid ganache but not pure chocolate. I have 3 Carpiagani machines, work pretty good. We pour in the liquid ganache and display dark, milk, and white. Ours is heated With water Bain Marie style. The Italian machines are pretty good also, again, not using pure chocolate, they are not designed for that. Sarahs looks like the made in China copy of the Italian machine.
Nothing better than real ganache made hot chocolate or Moccas, every coffee bar should have one of these and make quality hot chocolate instead of syrup or powder made crap that is so common.

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Permalink Reply by Chantelle Giardina on May 25, 2013 at 9:21pm

Great recommendations people!

Instead of starting a new thread, (which I might do later anyway) I thought I would ask all of you experts here. We have a small chocolate & patisserie boutique. We make everything there from scratch. Anyway, we originally made our hot chocolate by making a ganache and then steaming it with a little exta milk added. We weren't keen on doing this so we decided to get a continuos hot chocolate machine. The first one we boght was kind of cheap, around $300 Aus $. After having the machine on for a few hours we noticed the flavour would change and then eventually turn rancid and off smelling. It seemed to be happening sooner and sooner and so we thought we'd bought a dudd machine that maybe was only good for powder mixes etc. So eventually we invested in a better machine. it was around $700, and it heats via a baine marie. We thought this would be a lot better, and it was for a little while but eventually it has started to do the same thing. Yesterday it went bad after only 5-6 hours of putting the fresh batch in. 

The weird thing is, it seems to happen a lot less if I change the recipe to have no cream in it, only milk. (not a fan of this either). I have eventually tried modifying the recipes a lot, but my favourite recipe which is a modification from a very skilled French chocolatier, seems to go bad every time. Anyone know if it could be that certain creams have fats that go off quicker?

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance

Chantelle

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Permalink Reply by Brad Churchill on May 26, 2013 at 1:37am

Your milk products are going rancid.  The temperature of your contents needs to be above 165 degrees F to stop bacteria growth.  Anything less, and you are essentially creating a one gallon petrie dish.

 

The problem with the types of machines listed here is that if the temp is too low, your milk product is souring.  If the temperature is too high, your product is separating and you are getting a skim of cocoa butter on top (not appealing to look at).  I have a couple of them, and stopped using them.  Now, my staff creates a "base", refrigerates it, and then just steams it as needed.  This is much safer from a pathogenic perspective, and there is almost no waste, as a refrigerated product lasts longer than our demand allows it to.

It is VERY possible to create an absolutely fabulous drink by steaming it.  Here are 150+ online reviews of our drinking chocolates in a recent competition we won:  http://yychotchocolate.com/omg/

 

Oh... if you want to make a very nice sour cream, just leave a litre of buttermilk on your counter for 8 hours, and strain off the thin liquids.  I do that quite often instead of buying it in the store.

 

Cheers.

Brad

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Permalink Reply by Chantelle Giardina on May 26, 2013 at 11:02pm

Thanks Brad.

I figured that something was turning rancid. We had the machines turned to 60 degrees C. Not sure what it is in Fahrenheit.. So should we have turned them up higher? I figured above 65c  would be too high. What I didn't like about the steaming was the foamy textures. I might try adjust the recipe again. Also hoping to use this at a stall without any kind of coffee machine (only a chocolate machine). Has anyone else ever had their mix turn rancid so quickly?

Cheers

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