"They also dry the beans in large shelves off the ground so away from feet, animals and fag butts. We use their cacao and you certainly don't find it lacks in chocolate flavours"
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Raw Chocolate Machines?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Dan Knowlson Jun 6, 2011. 46 Replies 0 Likes
Hi, I'm wondering that what kind of machinery would you need for producing commercial raw chocolate products. I consult one company that brought this question up. I don't have any experiences making…Continue
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Ice Blocks! replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"
1. Fairtrade and Organic certification are more than just "social certification standards"
2. What are the "OTHER more ethical ways to conduct business"? How are they certified, what's the checks and balances…"
Jim replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"Hear ye, hear ye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jim Lucas"
Brad Churchill replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"Ice Blocks!
Ok.....
Either you're as dense as your name implies, or all the bowling allies are closed where you live and you have nothing better to do than hijack a thread in a chocolate forum.
WHAT EVERYONE INCLUDING…"
Ice Blocks! replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"As you can see from the "Learning from experience : Sustainable economic development in the Pacific" Oxfam document above, problems are being identified and solved as they are discovered.
So your argument is that because there are…"
Seneca Klassen replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"Strongly second Clay's points above. In addition, my experience in visiting coops in countries of origin (all in Latin America, in my case) is that there's substantial internal corruption within many of those organizations…"
Ice Blocks! replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"
I'd agree the Kraft purchase of Cadbury's has been a horrible setback for ethical cacao production and a betrayal of the Cadbury's founders IMO. Good on little NZ for fighting back and stopping palm oil in their Cadbury's…"
Clay Gordon replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"The point is - the farmers, left to themselves, could not have done this in most instances. In Peru, specifically, they did not bootstrap themselves out of poverty - it took massive amounts of international aid. At least $100 million. Over more than…"
Ice Blocks! replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"
"The overarching point I want to make here is that without direct personal knowledge, you don't know really know what's going on.". Exactly, and since I nor my customers can afford the time or money to invest in direct…"
Ice Blocks! replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"The *senseless* change was, if you review the thread, because you called Organic and Fairtrade certification "crap""
Clay Gordon replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"I need to step in here.
One thing you may not know "Ice Blocks" (would be nice to have a real name to use) is that the vast majority of success in the Peruvian agro-sector is because of massive investment by organizations like USAID; my…"
Brad Churchill replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"Just out of curiosity, what does your senseless spewing about blindly being on a fair trade bandwagon have to do with the original question about raw cocoa?"
Ice Blocks! replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?""give me some points that FAIR TRADE WILL ENRICH."
Put it this way; there is *no* way I'd buy cacao unless its fair trade certified and maybe organic certified. If you were certified I'd guarantee I'd at least try…"
Ice Blocks! replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?" "It seems that the function of FAIR TRADE groups has been greatly expanded to include ... to ensure workers are not exploited and have basic benefits and rights." From what I understand it has and in my opinion it *should be*.…"
Jim replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"I am at a loss to understand how "FAIR TRADE" organizations will improve the lives of workers in our cacau farms. It seems that the function of FAIR TRADE groups has been greatly expanded to include "fair…"
Ice Blocks! replied to Jaakko Halmetoja's discussion Raw Chocolate Machines?"
I can't afford to fly round the world checking and verifying ethical claims either nor can I buy sufficient quantities (yet) to make demands of coops / hacienda / plantation owners. That's precisely why Fair-trade and Organic…"
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