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Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate
Started this discussion. Last reply by Ernesto Bugarin Pantua Jr. Oct 4, 2011. 26 Replies 0 Likes
Kia ora Koutou!We have a small business in Aoteaora (NZ) hand making raw chocolate. I would like to buy a stone grinder so I can start to work with the beans and also make a range of nut butters. …Continue
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Pixie replied to Kat's discussion Fermented cacao beans-bar"Kia ora Kat,
I just came accross your letter in the forum and was wondering how you got on with your business. I also make raw choc in Nz (using butter and powder) but in the process of changing from bean to bar. Did you do further…"
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Pixie replied to debra kleiman walter's discussion chocolate tempering machines"Kia ora Debra,
We are in Aotearoa (New Zealand)making Raw Chocolate and we also do not buy seed chocolate. I am interested to find how you got on with your search for a tempering machine. They are expensive to import over here and want…"
Ernesto Bugarin Pantua Jr. replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"Thanks again for the information Clay!"
Clay Gordon replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"There is a small export market for pods into the US, mainly for decorative floral applications. The pods must be fumigated, and because the supply chain is not as tightly integrated as it is in flowers, by the time the pods arrive they are way past…"
Ernesto Bugarin Pantua Jr. replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"yes bravo Clay, that was enlightening. Why don't the raw foodists eat the fresh cacao pods. Does anybody export fresh cacao pods for eating?"
Andal Balu replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"Hi Yvonne,
Our customers are using the ECGC-65-A Grindeurs and Deluxe melangers for nut butters and are happy with the results. ECGC -65-A Grindeurs are easier to use and clean. They also have built in systems to prevent the motor from overheating.…"
Tom replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"Don't forget the sheering forces in the grinder will destroy the enzymes anyway, no matter what temperature it hits. I posted a link to an article in one thread a long time ago about protein breakdown under sheering forces. I am with…"
Clay Gordon replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"Yvonne, Matt Monarch is a very interesting character. The machine he is hyping is a Santha (Spectra) stone grinder from India. These have been used in the US (and around the world) as grinder/refiner/conches for years. I personally have been using…"
Yvonne Forsman replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"I just happened to watch a video about a stone grinder for nut butters and the guy said they also use it for chocolate. Here is the…"
Clay Gordon replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"Brian:
47C (~118F) is the most common max temp I have heard for raw anything.
It's possible to fully ferment below 118F, though pile temps "naturally" want to tend to peak around 122-125F.
While raw chocolate people talk about ferment…"
brian horsley replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"clay you mentioned 47C above as a generally accepted temp for cacao / choc in the raw choc world. is that for chocolate making only or also the post-harvest processing?
If a raw bean buyer want the beans to be fermented at below 47 i…"
Dieter Speer replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"great write Clay and I am very much with you here.
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vincent mourou replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"it will definitely go over 40 degrees C (actually around 43 without sugar). you'll have to keep a fan on it to cool the contents while grinding. that should work well since we have used our Premier Wet Grinder 1.5L (like a santha but with…"
Clay Gordon replied to Pixie's discussion Stone Grinder for Raw Chocolate"Michel:
The FACT is that there is no proof that the Howell's enzyme theory of nutrition has any legitimate basis.
The fact that there is no firm consensus as to what defines what is, and what is not, raw
What we DO know is that different…"
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- At 2:06pm on February 17, 2011,
Crucial Jade said… - ~Pixie~
I would love to stay in touch so that we can support each other in our raw chocolate endeavors. I am happy to be connected! ; )
my website is www.crucialchocolate.com
- At 3:17pm on February 13, 2011, Clay Gordon said…
Pixie:
I lived in NZ for three years (Wellington) and have been through Whakatane several times. There was no local chocolate industry when I lived there so I would love to know more about Hine Moana and what's going on in chocolate in NZ these days.
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