hi joe, continuing from your previous reply actually yes I don't use refrigerator to temper it, because I don't have that. so I change it with chopping the ice into the breaking ice then I put all the ice into a plastic box, I make it sure if the surface is flat, then I put the chocolate mold onto it. cover the box with a flat board so the temperature only inside, and I wait till the chocolate temper. that's how I temper it. how is joe, is it okay to temper the chocolate? ^_^.