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fermentation - the light came on?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Sebastian Dec 18, 2013. 3 Replies

This may be a stupid/newbie question, but how do I know if my raw cacao powder has been fermented or not?Without repeating myself too much, in the introduce yourself section you can read that I get…Continue

get ill from chocolate

Started this discussion. Last reply by Clay Gordon Nov 29, 2013. 19 Replies

Hi all, I unfortunately get ill if I eat normal store bought chocolate, something to do with the cacao, however it seems as if I can tolerated raw cacao much better. So I decided to make my own small…Continue

 

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Sebastian replied to bongaan's discussion fermentation - the light came on?
"If it's really that serious of a health issue, it sounds like a gamble to me to attempt to consume it.  I can't stress enough that there is no current safe method of producing raw cocoa consistently that has safe microbiological…"
Dec 18, 2013
bongaan replied to bongaan's discussion fermentation - the light came on?
"Thank you Sebastian. I think I'm narrowing down the reasons why chocoloate is an issue for people with histaminosis. 1. Biogenic amine formation during thermogenic changes, mostly during drying, roasting and grinding. 2. Milk powder in milk…"
Dec 17, 2013
Clay Gordon replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"Doing two minutes' research on the internet is always problematic because you don't know what sources are reliable. Bongaan's interest in making chocolate is not a commercial venture, it's because he has a particular disease…"
Nov 29, 2013
Sebastian replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"If he's simultaneously stating that its raw and has a low microbe count, i'd be very, very suspicious.  Organic has nothing to do with micro food safety.  HE may believe they're low in micro count, but my very strong…"
Nov 29, 2013
Sebastian replied to bongaan's discussion fermentation - the light came on?
"There are a few important steps that could impact the formation of biogenic amines.  Most of them do not form during fermentation, i'm afraid. The first is fermentation - fermentation can take up to 7 days, and can be done a variety of…"
Nov 29, 2013
bongaan replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"Regarding the issue that raw is potentially dangerous, the guys I bought it from states this: Raw, Organic: This is a 100% raw product that is certified organic by BCS Oko Garantie. Low Microbe Count: Because of the exceptional quality and…"
Nov 29, 2013
bongaan replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"You guys can always be so kind as to jump to my new post and rather help me out there? :)  "
Nov 29, 2013
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fermentation - the light came on?

This may be a stupid/newbie question, but how do I know if my raw cacao powder has been fermented or not?Without repeating myself too much, in the introduce yourself section you can read that I get ill from chocolate. People with histaminosis get ill from most fermented foods/ingredients. This is because during fermentation enzymes break down some of the protein into various amines which we can't tolerate. Amines are not destroyed by heat.So I believe the light came on, on why I get ill from…See More
Nov 29, 2013
bongaan replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"Thank you Sebastian, apology accepted and you are forgiven. You see the problem I face is while chocolate making are a passion for most of you here, I just wish to eat chocolate once in a while, and to be quite frank, I actually just want to buy it…"
Nov 29, 2013
Sebastian replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"time tested and approved 8-)"
Nov 28, 2013
Tom replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"What, roasting it?? ;)"
Nov 28, 2013
Sebastian replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"FYI for the rest of you - i MAY have come up with a way to safely use raw cocoa.  i'll need to think through it a bit more, but as with any puzzle, there's a solution, it just needs to be found.  I may have found a solution.…"
Nov 28, 2013
Sebastian replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"I certainly meant no disrespect - my apologies if you took it as such. I think you will find this community is very much a two way street, you get back what you put into it.  I did not answer your question directly because the answer already is…"
Nov 28, 2013
bongaan replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"Thank you for recommending Chocolate Alchemy's site. Their first FAQ is all I was asking for in my post here...and just look at where it turned! Q: How do I make chocolate? A: Well, that is THE question isn’t it? From the main page, on…"
Nov 28, 2013
bongaan replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"All of you who is giving me the mouthful on the negatives of raw cacao. First of all, at least be glad for me that I'm at last able to enjoy some chocolate without getting ill!  If it's a time bomb ticking, well Sebastian made…"
Nov 28, 2013
bongaan replied to bongaan's discussion get ill from chocolate
"Thank you for pointing out that there is no such thing as a Chocolate 101 section here. I don't know if I will be able to tolerate normal commercial cocoa paste, I will have to experiment and see. First need to source it and that will take…"
Nov 28, 2013

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